Rumores de los vanillamarines

ea, ahi va el tocho
"Units

Basic:
You may still have variable squad sizes(6-9), but you get nothing else besides the Sgt n his options. No special n Heavy Weapons.
The weapon options (free stuff) is correct if taken as a 10 man unit.

Apothecaries:
Confirmed, they do give FNP to the squad they are part of, any any attached characters!


Sternguard:
All members of the squad can take combi weapons, from bolter & chainsword Rumored that all may take storm bolters and may take 2 heavy or special weapons. Heavy flamers included.

Vanguard:
They may be upgraded to Honour Guard if you take a Company Master

Command Squads:
These can be bike mounted, in theory you could have an all T5 command squad, with FNP, and storm shields...



Characters:
Basic Character

Chaplains are WS 5, BS 4, 3+ sv.

Librarain WS 5, BS 4

Commanders
are WS6, but have limited ranged weapon options.
Bike Commanders: allow bike squads as troops.

Techmarines
still have Servitor Retinues(0-4 models), but may leave them as a seperate unit. The downside; they only operate on a 4+ if left alone.

Captain Lysander:
Mc'ed Str 10 Thunder Hammer [w/ +1 damage against vehicles]
Storm Shield
Eternal Warrior
Bolter Drill [grants twin linking to all bolter shots in the SQUAD he joins]
allow army to FORTIFY one piece of terrain [+1 cover save]
grants either Stubborn or Combat Tactics

Marneus Calgar
Eternal Warrior

Chaplain Cassius:
toughness 6 and eternal warrior

Captain Sicarius:
Some sort of mantle that grants feel no pain

Shrike:
Gives the army Fleet, and also allows infiltration with the squad he is attached too. He now has an Iron Halo, and pretty much the same wargear as before, but WS6.


Vulkan Estan:
allows any and all Salamanders in the army to replace their Combat Tactics special rule with a Salamanders version; they get Master Crafted Thunder Hammers for free. All Melta/flamer weapons in the army, no matter their source, count as twin linked – also for free.
Vulkan Estan: He is the ex-4th Salamander Company Captain and is a kind of wandering champion. He has almost Inquisition-like leverage over the Salamander Chapter, as his task is to seek out and recover nine holy relics made by Vulkan before he disappeared. If all nine are recovered, it is said Vulkan will return. Estan has recovered the following three and uses them:

* Salamander Hide Cloak,
* Gauntlet which counts as a Heavy Flamer and allows re-rolls to wound.
* Spear of Vulkan is a S6 master crafted power weapon.
Pedro Cantor:
grants either Stubborn or Combat Tactics, Grants 'Hold the line' : SternGuard vets are scoring [but NOT troops selections, still elites]

Master of the Forge:
Current Techmarine stats w BS5 and LD10-100 pts
2+ Sv. no inv.
Servo Harness for free
Allows Dreadnoughts to be taken as Heavy Support AND Elites.
Has special rule that allows for one piece of terrain in your Deployment Zone to be given an improved Cover Save by +1 at the atart of the game(fortifications or some-such).

Ultramarine Sgt Chronus
Heavy Support upgrade: confers his BS of 5 to his vehicle, and can survive its destruction to keep fighting on foot! (hence the foot slogging model)
Tank Commander Upgrade

Ultramarine Scout Sgt Telion
Scout Master Sgt Upgrade
Squad upgrade: confers his BS of 6 to one other Scout in his squad (sniper, missile launcher, etc.)


Vehicles

Landraider:
LR Machine Spirit [no longer BS2, can fire extra main weapon , may fire at 2 seperate targets, ignores stunned/shaken]
Land Raider Crusader is now cheaper but does not include the multi-melta; this option may now be purchased as a pintle mounted weapon for ALL land raiders.
Land Raider Redeemer flame cannons are S:6 AP:3 but are not Inferno Cannons; the template must touch the weapon.

Dreadnaught:
* Venerables are back to WS/BS 5.
* Ironclads have 13/13/10 armour and can take twin DCCW, Hurricane bolter, twin linked heavy flamer, and some others It also has a rule which (possibly a weapon option) called the Seismic Hammer which counts as a thunder hammer and allows difficult terrain tests to be re-roll as the Ironclad batters terrain out of the way.
* Dreads weapons options: Assault Cannon, Multi Melta, linked Heavy Bolters, linked Heavy Flamers, linked las cannon, linked autocannon, plasma cannon, DCCW, Missile Launcher, and maybe more. The linked autocannon can be purchased for BOTH arms, and possibly some others options as well.


Wargear & weapons

Thunderfire Cannon:
3 Fire modes, all fire modes are "x4 Small Blast", one of which is STR6 AP4

Storm Shields:
Confirmed, its a 3+ Invulnerable against ALL attacks, both shooting & CC."
http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153934

Por lo que he leido de aqui, y por lo que me han contado en la GW.... no me puedo creer apenas nada xD....

Pero es que nada tiene sentido.... quien haya posteado eso.. nose... lo ha dejado a modo de su forma de juego... porque si te fijas no es nada logico la mayoria de cosas... solo si tu estilo de juego esta definido de una manera X.

Luego lo de algunos personages si que lo veo logico....pero ya digo..... que el resto marines de linea, dread venerable etc... no me creo nah....

Además GW ya dijo que no serian tan VANILLA.

Veo cosas demasiado brutas... escudo tormenta invul 3+ contra todo? Motos como linea? eso en 5ª meter el turbo en el ultimo turno...

El escudo tormenta va a ser DIOS como sea verdad eso

Los dread ahora serán la hiper po..., hp5 ha5 y encima su habilidad

Y lanzallamas F6 FP3, las risas....-


Madre mía, espero que todo eso sea falso porque sino me hago marines hasta yo!

Eso es una ida de olla La mayoria de cosas, mirando los codex de AO y AS se ve claramente que son una invencion. Personalmente, no me creo nada, y el tio que se lo invento, tiene mucha fantasia la verdad

Zman escribió:

Eso es una ida de olla La mayoria de cosas, mirando los codex de AO y AS se ve claramente que son una invencion. Personalmente, no me creo nada, y el tio que se lo invento, tiene mucha fantasia la verdad

Hmmmm... Mis opiniones son mixtas, pero tranquilamente algo de eso puede ser cierto, como las nuevas estadísticas de los CG...

Aunque no creo que haya que compararlo con los Codices de AO y AS, estos son anteriores a este, y todos sabemos como Games Workshop puede modificar las cosas, llevandose la relación trasfondo-consistencia, a marzo.